Defendant Carsten S .: the knower
Carsten S. (hooded) is one of the defendants in the NSU trial
© Michael Dalder / ReutersAbout ten years before the terrorist group NSU confessed to their series of murders, it has probably been tried once to bring Carsten S. to talk. In 2001 he is said to have been offered a drop-out program from the right-wing milieu. So it says in a file memo of the protection of the Constitution. Dropouts are usually associated with people telling what they know about the scene. In the special case of Carsten S .: What he knew about the whereabouts of the three submerged bomb makers from Jena. Because he acted as the only contact for the trio in the meantime, was known to the authorities.
But Carsten S. refused. More even. He should have complained about the offer of state protection. He still feels that he is a member of the "national movement" and said he is "fully committed" there, a source reports. This contradicts the information that S. made in interrogations with the BKA and the Federal Prosecutor's Office and in the courtroom. He wants to have already quit in September 2000, have resigned all political offices at the latest by the end of 2000.
It is all the more surprising that the authorities have simply let Carsten S. move. After North Rhine-Westphalia, in the gay scene. Already in the next file note is: The State Office for the Protection of the Constitution NRW is no knowledge about Carsten S. before.
He was no threat, no activist, no longer involved in the scene, the terror trio? the authorities known as the "Bomb Builders of Jena" - produced and supported in the underground. So there was no reason for the authorities to stay tuned to him, even though the search for the three was still going on? In the interrogation by the co-plaintiffs on Thursday, the fifth day in the courtroom where he answered, Carsten S. said there had never been any contact with security authorities. Until his arrest on 1 February 2012.
I have an Uzi or machine pistol in my head.
Carsten S. was a knowledgeable. One who knew even more than hitherto known. On Tuesday he revealed suddenly: In April 2000, at the arms transfer in Chemnitz, which he had admitted during his arrest, he also learned that Uwe Mundlos and Uwe Böhnhardt already had weapons. One of the Uwes had typed on his backpack and said: "We are always armed." What that weapon was, asked the chairman Richter Götzl. "I have an Uzi or submachine gun in my head," Carsten S. said.
And: Those who have been hijacked may have committed even more deeds than previously attributed to them. Suddenly Carsten S. breaks out: "They said that they put a torch in Nuremberg," he sobbed. Flashlight, that's what he brought together in the evening in bed with the bombs. And indeed: In 1999 there was a pipe bomb attack in Nuremberg, homemade, similar to a flashlight. The place where the bomb blew up belonged to a Turkish operator.
Carsten S. has a lot of knowledge. But this knowledge has been spilled in ten years. Concocted with the experiences of a traumatic coming-out, a replacement from the right scene. A psychotherapy. A study. A new life.
Now the day-long questioning is often painfully tough. Can not he not, does not he want, can not he? Many ask. He tells the same anecdotes, they are sad stories from the Jena of the turning point. Where young people from Winzerla, it seems, left almost nothing else, but to be right. Where one depended on "Chinese" until one was boring.
Until you went to the city, where the "ticks" were, with whom you sought conflict, beating each other. A time when "Nazi" was a dirty word when it came out of the mouth of the left. As Linke in the understanding of Carsten S. were people who had "Nazis out" -stickers, and the right ones with "tick tick" on the lapel. "We thought it was funny," Carsten S. explained several times. And: "We laughed a lot in the scene."
A scene in which it seems to have been possible for someone like Carsten S. to wear the black and white and red patch on his jacket and to play football with his colored nephew. "I was not a racist," he said at some point. And at the same time that he glorified the Nazi era. "Swastika and stuff."
The responses to his ideology are unsatisfactory, even after being questioned by the presiding judge, the prosecutors, and the co-plaintiff. They all do not really seem to want to believe that he was just the "Kleene", as Uwe Mundlos and Uwe Böhnhardt are supposed to have called him on the phone.Why he did not bring all this together in his mind, the violence of the Uwes, the arming, the possibility of raising money through bank robberies? Why did not that make him go to the police if he really did not want the gun he was getting used to? Key to the nationwide murder series
The fear, the stomach ache, they are always bloated, he says. But he has "packed away", as he says. Good for ten years. Today he is genuinely scared of his contribution to the murders. Asked by Andreas Thiel, a representative of Taskkprü from Hamburg, whether he noticed the Ceska murder series at some point in the coverage, that he may have stumbled across the gun, he answers, almost shocked: "No, unfortunately not."
Instead of the security authorities in Dusseldorf only Antifa groups wanted to talk to him about the right-wing scene. Carsten S. is almost a key to the nationwide series of murders? one, that is also in the constitution protection files, which was held by his client Ralf Wohlleben, as not particularly reliable, as one who also blabber something. Others, contrary to the agreement said: "The three are doing well." He has distanced himself far, far away from the scene. Would he have unpacked earlier if he had the opportunity? He did not have her.
For the ChroniquesDuVasteMonde at the NSU trial site is Lena fight. She is currently reporting for ChroniquesDuVasteMonde.com and stern.de.
